now, what will they gain by going to benghazi and taking the security risk. they may decide not to go at all. >> so just to be clear, we're not sure at this point where the breakdown occurred in terms of who -- i mean, whether it was the libyans, whether it was -- or state department, we don't know where the breakdown occurred. >> no, that's right. anderson, it could have been something as simple as this sort of -- when the interagency discussion, the u.s. government writ large decided that if that's what you're required for your perimeter security, that indicated itself it was too dangerous and that they shouldn't be bothered, they shouldn't go at all. it's not even clear to us yet whether or not this request was put to the libyan government. >> fran, you say not only fbi investigators not gone to benghazi yet, but that some are not even in libya. >> that's right. anderson, whenever there's an international terrorism investigation, there's a protocol where fbi agents with palletized cargo and equipment predeploy in the region to get closer. in this case, tha